911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Arandur @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:25:59 -0000

Arandur — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:25:59 -0000

Weren’t you putting forth that the Muslims were better…?

The Catholic Church has always (officially) tried to be the peacemaker on this issue (the inception of the Israeli state in 1949 and subsequent conflicts). You can’t lay blame about indiscriminately if you understand the situation well. And I don’t know many mainline Christians tyring to bring about the second coming.

There seems to be a misperception held in common by many non-Christians here that the majority of Christians believe and act the same as the loud, “post-Protestant” (nods to Swiss) fundamentalists. In the whole scheme of Christianity, they’re a pretty small group. And many of them are still very good and peace-loving people.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:39:02 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:39:02 -0000

who are we to decide that the Jews are better then the muslims? why not the muslims? why not both.. peacefuly? why do we back isreal who has broken many human right laws? It makes no sense to me. So much hate on both sides, with no end in sight.. unless that end is mutual destruction.. or ethnic cleansing. it is sickening. And then i see the christians standing back and doing nothing.. or helping the choas. All they care about is biblical prophecy and bringing about the second coming of christ.
Makes sense why John lennon wrote the song “imagine”. So much hate, death, greed, bigotry, etc.. etc…
makes me sick.. literally.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by SwissCelt @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:32:28 -0000

SwissCelt — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:32:28 -0000

Urza, I’m telling you: It really doesn’t matter. Why? Because your fellow Dominionists were just itching for a war against the Muslims anyway, and the Islamists were wanting to come here and convert us to their form of totalitarian theocracy. (Which differs from the Dominionists’ form only insofar as burqas are slightly less fashionable than gingham dresses.) So trying to figure out which faction actually caused the towers to fall is a bit like trying to figure out which dog pulled the Christmas turkey off the table. I still say it was the 19 Islamist terrorists from a little group called al Qaeda, but if it turned out to be some kind of conspiracy between the Bush administration, Pat Robertson, and other Dominionists, it wouldn’t change my opinion in the least.

I can tell you, though, that it wasn’t the Freemasons. According to the filth you guys were spreading last decade, we already owned the World Trade Center. :-/

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by absoluteliquid @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:07:52 -0000

absoluteliquid — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:07:52 -0000

NO. There is NO Palestinian state. The Palestinians are a proxy for the Muslim fundimentalists to wage war on Israel.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:04:38 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:04:38 -0000

Isn’t that what the Palestinians are doing?

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by absoluteliquid @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:59:18 -0000

absoluteliquid — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:59:18 -0000

I don’t think killing Muslims is O.K. per se, But, I DO belive in the right to defend your country’s sovereignty.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:58:22 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:58:22 -0000

How well the American propaganda machine works…
If they were able to convince people that Iraq and saddom had something to do with Al Quada… who knows what else is a lie?

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by kookookachoo @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:49:49 -0000

kookookachoo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:49:49 -0000

Aran, I think the only thing you missed was that Joseph and his brothers abandoned it in the first place when they took off for Egypt. excellent list!

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by kookookachoo @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:46:06 -0000

kookookachoo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:46:06 -0000

So, I will comment. Why, then, if it was an inside job, did they lie further and blame it on Iraq as one excuse to invade, Seems if it was a lie in the first place, they would make sure it was a complete one. We all know that until recently, many Americans thought that Iraq did it instead of Saudi extremist members of Al Queda. Afghanistan was invaded to go after Al Queda, but Iraq was the real target the whole time. That’s about all…

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:09:31 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:09:31 -0000

Why do they have to Kill so many Muslims then? Do you think that’s okay?

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by absoluteliquid @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:53:19 -0000

absoluteliquid — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:53:19 -0000

“The land they live on was stolen from the muslims. They have no real right to be there any more then muslims.. or christians for that matter.”

Well maud, you apperently have done no research on the issue and are not well read on the subject matter so I will clue you in. Isreal has every right in the world to be where they are due to a land grant from the Creator of the universe. God gave them exclusive rights to that land in Genesis 15:18 -In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates -KJV

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Arandur @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:48:06 -0000

Arandur — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:48:06 -0000

Though it may seem like it, I don’t have time to get into everything here, nor do I have time to research everyone’s viewpoints on everything to understand them better. In fact, I really need to withdraw talk about far fewer topics. I won’t weigh in further on the 9/11 topic. I just wanted to put aside that traditional anti-Israel red herring, because I don’t think it’s logically supportable. I thought you wanted to go on that tangent with your previous post.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:43:00 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:43:00 -0000

Arandur:
regardless of who was there thousands of years ago.. the land was taken from the muslims… and there will be wars, murder, torture, ethnic cleansing… etc.. until one of them happily kills the last of the other. (Religion is lovely :-] ) You’re argument still doesn’t invalidate them as a possibly perpetrator of 911. In fact.. it’s more of an irrelevant tangent.

I also agree that Urza should have worded his postings a little better…

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Arandur @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:33:04 -0000

Arandur — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:33:04 -0000

Wow, urza, just read your posts. You’re a real treat. Good luck in lending any credibility to your arguments with that attitude.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Arandur @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:30:28 -0000

Arandur — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:30:28 -0000

“The land they live on was stolen from the muslims. They have no real right to be there any more then muslims.. or christians for that matter.”

Who stole it from the Christians, who stole it from the Muslims, who stole it from the Jews, who stole it from the Babylonians, who stole it from the Jews, who stole it from the Canaanites, who stole it from the Jews, who stole it from various tribes, who presumably stole it from someone else. I probably left many out along the way. Still, the Jews’ identity is caught up in that land more than anyone else, and the Jews held that land longer and more persistently than anyone else. I don’t know that this gives them any more claim, but certainly no less claim. “Possession (of land) is nine-tenths of the law.” Get over it. The whole “Jews stole it from Muslims” thing is a tired argument with no real legitimacy in light of history. If you want to go back in time and revert all land back to their original owners, good luck. In actuality, that would put the Jews back in control again, since they are the earliest identifiable group that controlled the land that still maintains any cohesion.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:18:03 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:18:03 -0000

thanks

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:57:07 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:57:07 -0000

Great reply muadib we need wake these sheep up ….

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:52:28 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:52:28 -0000

SwissCelt promotes Gnostic Church of Christ on his website this prick is part of the problem dam retared DanBrown flunky , He has already proved his farther was high level mason proving his blood lines curse. He is to dumb to know it tho…

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:05:19 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:05:19 -0000

SwissCelt so finding out the true killers is noth worth the time? get your head out your A$$ ... easy to see they kill people blame it on some one els take there country while putting us under micro scope for control….

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:46:40 -0000

muadib — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:46:40 -0000

blaming isreal has nothing to do with being anti-semitic. It’s being anti war. Isreal is one of the most blood thursty countries in the world.. and they are backed by the US. The land they live on was stolen from the muslims. They have no real right to be there any more then muslims.. or christians for that matter.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Satolkin @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:27:02 -0000

Satolkin — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:27:02 -0000

“I won’t do it. The blood of those who died that day demands that I not do it”

And that’s th lesson we were meant to be taught that day, Bro.
Selah.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by SwissCelt @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:47:51 -0000

SwissCelt — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 02:47:51 -0000

Right on, Satol.

I watched the Towers fall. I talked, via cell phone, to someone who was trapped in the subway somewhere around Canal Street, right before the collapse caused the city-wide cell phone failure. My mother saw Flight 93 fly directly overhead in Northeast Ohio, en route to Shanksville, PA. She knew something was up, because commercial flights don’t fly over this part of Ohio… due to the RTLS and the position of the local airports, this isn’t generally a commercial flight path. (It’s not restricted airspace, but it might as well be.)

The important thing to remember about 9/11 is that people died. And I really don’t give a rat’s ass if it was because of some Islamic zealots trying to curry favor with their god, or because of some Christian zealots trying to curry favor with their god… the same god, I might add. It still adds up to an attempt to force me to worship that god.

I won’t do it. The blood of those who died that day demands that I not do it. And while I’m fortunate not to know any of the 3,000 who died, I know those who know them. Rest assured that they’re dead.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by ratboy @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:59:28 -0000

ratboy — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:59:28 -0000

Yes…If Britney Spears can’t keep her belly button ring a secret…the world press would have ferreted out this conspiracy story….sheeeeesh

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by Satolkin @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:42:04 -0000

Satolkin — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:42:04 -0000

Well, hey, on top of that, it gives us a reason not only to blame America, but allows us to feel better about being anti- semitic by blaming Israel as a co- conspirator.

Gimme a break.

911 was a inside job!!!! replied by muadib @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:23:10 -0000

muadib — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:23:10 -0000

In reality the 911 conspiracy movement is quite valid. False flag attacts have been a huge part of human history, the chances that it still can hapen today are 100 percent. I think most people are just unable to understand how out of control the USA has become.. along with Isreal. False flag attacts have been proven to be the best way to get a country behind an unjustified wars/attacks.. etc. It just makes too much sense for it to be thrown away as a crazy idea.. The rest of the world has been turning to the belief that 911 was in fact an inside job created by Isreal and the united states. It serves as a way to justify attacts on the middle east.. the Israelis gain from it by getting america to help get rid of those bothersome muslims, the US gains from it by increasing it’s power over oil.. and helping the neo-conservitive leaders bring about the second coming of christ. Not to mention all the non-circumstatial evidence. It is in fact our duty as citizens in a democratic country to watch out for things like this. By throwing it out as a crazy conspiracy without even looking into the evidence.. is un-american. We must not forget that even america is coruptable.. and probably already is.

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