I can’t help but notice that you folks are a little inscrutable. That’s all well and good. I am thinking that some of the hype from the movie is kinda over with, the contest’s deadline is past, well, you know. I also notice not too many new voices here. I love all these guys, but we should try to attract some new people. Do you think you can do that? You said we should keep going, and we will. I think we may need your help… Thank you in advance.

And, a most Happy and Blessed New Year to you and yours!

Best regards,
Ken

Yes. New voices. Old ones’ are beginning to rot.

And stink like that g-dawful talapia that I tossed in the trash and forgot about.

A suggestion- dump the movie thing, and re- market. Seriously. This whole forum is really sort of screwed up, which is why I think there are few new members. It’s supposedly oriented towards the movie, the news links on here are of the death and destruction type, and it doesn’t mesh. If someone really gets into the meat of the postings, they find a hugely divergent group- straight, gay, leftist, rightest, mainstream Christian, heretic, young, old, mouthy, reserved…who have essentially formed a community of philosophers with a shitload of love and respect for each other. What the hell do you do with that? Have a meeting- you corporate ‘tards won’t get it, but what has happened here is a demonstration of mankind’s unity. See if you can squeeze that into a P&L report.

Regards,
Dave

P.S. When I say “Regards, Dave,” on a a forum where I have maintained relative anonymity, I really mean “blow me.”
P.P.S. What Koo calls “inscrutable,” I call standoffish, corporate, assholes. You might want to think about actually interacting with your market.

I was gonna ask you about that talapia when you mentioned last night’s steaks (from Angus). I thought maybe that was the end result…

I love our dear admins…they are the life and blood of my existence…I would give them my first born child…if I had one…I do have a hamster…it’s a start…

Perhaps they would like to adopt little RBXIV, if we could only find him! You said he’s gone missing again? Have you checked the granary? He did have that crush on the grinding stone there, but alas, she wasn’t pedigreed. So, admin, should rb find little RBXIV, he MAY be willing to deed him over to you. But, we’ll need something from you (see above).

RBXIV can be a bit hard headed at times…but he’s a really solid chap…a brick…I have no doubt that he would be useful in building the Time Warner corporation…

I don’t think little RBXIV would be very happy being just ONE of the rocks in the heads of the TW executive types. Let’s cancel this transaction.

Satolkin wrote:
If someone really gets into the meat of the postings, they find a hugely divergent group- straight, gay, leftist, rightest, mainstream Christian, heretic, young, old, mouthy, reserved…who have essentially formed a community of philosophers with a shitload of love and respect for each other. What the hell do you do with that? Have a meeting- you corporate ‘tards won’t get it, but what has happened here is a demonstration of mankind’s unity. See if you can squeeze that into a P&L report.

And once again, Satol, I’m glad you’re on my side… being that I’m largely a wannabe corporate ‘tard. ;-)

So, what do you do with that? In keeping with Satol’s suggestion, you -exploit it for world domination- er, I mean, use it for marketing; you re-market. By “marketing”, I strongly infer a fine balance, rarely seen on the Web yet practiced for centuries on other media (print, radio, television). Media entities have been successful when they have been able to do three things, not necessarily in this order:

1. Monetize the medium, traditionally through advertising;
2. Engage and retain media consumers by providing interesting content;
3. Ensure that the first process does not interfere with the second, and vice versa.

This is highly unusual, given that we are well into the second decade of the commercialization of the Internet, and yet its performance as a commercial medium is at least anecdotally well behind that of other media at this stage. There was no “dot com bust” or “ink bubble” awaiting the print medium a few years after Gutenberg. Radio was used for much more than selling newspapers; broadcasters didn’t cut the mikes at the seventh inning stretch after saying, “Read tomorrow’s Press for the results of today’s game!” And while television did start out with radio talent & shows, it quickly emerged as a medium unto itself… much more quickly than the fourteen years that have elapsed since the ‘net went commercial. (By comparison, only ten years elapsed from the first commercial TV station to the premiere of “I Love Lucy”.)

I guess what this frustrated old college broadcast & comp sci major is saying is that the admins of this site have a golden opportunity here. Of course, it would help if y’all checked your e-mail settings: My e-mail to you folks at webmaster@godstilllovesus.org late last year offering my services as a “New Media” consultant (yeah, I do this for a living… does it show? ;-) ) bounced. But don’t take my word for it. Just look at your competitors (like Beliefnet.com) who are failing miserably at this here gig. The medium isn’t the problem… it’s how companies are using it.

Warmest regards (or at least warmer regards than my friend Dave offered),
Jeff

SwissCelt wrote:

Warmest regards (or at least warmer regards than my friend Dave offered),
>Jeff

Hey, don’t mind me- ex- corporate ‘tard turned corporate ‘tard again because self employment doesn’t work anymore.

Golden opportunity here, yes. What I find annoying, as a dood holding a marketing degree, is the complete inability of a lot of neo- marketers to “get it.” It hasn’t been gotten here. I mean, c’mon- as was mentioned in another thread, the “big contest” ended, and nobody has announced a winner. Granted, most of us active here are mostly here to BS amongst ourselves, but all these nifty pictures have been contributed with the intent of winning a contest. Give the kids their toys.

Regards,
Dave

Anyway, we could use some new folks to tear apart. Any ideas? I brought a friend on already, and a muslim, too. Would any of you know of a person who might like it around here? I’m going back to American Atheists site and do a little forum, there, maybe? Not everyone on that site is an atheist, either, some don’t know what they are! (kinda like here, sometimes! lol)

It’s late Mon. night. Hopefully, the Admin. 9 to 5 team will have some ideas this week??? I did start the thread on a weekend…

SC, You’re not old, i would say that you are in the prime of your life. Go for it! And, you have to make a living, get as much as you can until you are outsourced to Bangladesh. Then, start your own business!

Satolkin wrote:
What I find annoying, as a dood holding a marketing degree, is the complete inability of a lot of neo- marketers to “get it.” It hasn’t been gotten here. I mean, c’mon- as was mentioned in another thread, the “big contest” ended, and nobody has announced a winner. Granted, most of us active here are mostly here to BS amongst ourselves, but all these nifty pictures have been contributed with the intent of winning a contest. Give the kids their toys.

Oh, no doubt! It’s like “neo-marketers” come to this medium thinking that the laws of physics and everything else don’t apply here, and we “inhabitants of cyberspace” are some strange and unknown creatures far removed from human beings. Sorry to disappoint, corporate ‘tards, but we’re all human. We like toys. We like being entertained, and we respond well to flattery and attention. The same marketing approaches that have worked since the Roman Empire still work today; nothing radical changed in 1994.

The mice ran the maze. It’s time to give them the cheese now, and start working on the next trick.

kookookachoo wrote:
SC, You’re not old, i would say that you are in the prime of your life. Go for it! And, you have to make a living, get as much as you can until you are outsourced to Bangladesh. Then, start your own business!

Been there, am doing that, my liege. ;-) I had a good job before 2001, then the recession hit, then I scrapped around for a few years while building my own business, and now I work somewhat independently. Still not making quite what I made before 2001, but I’m getting there.

Someone (it might have been Rush Limbaugh, believe it or not!) said recently, “they don’t let you make the real money in this country until you’re 40.” I’m just a few years off, and I’m looking forward to it! No, I said “old college student” as meaning that was a few years ago. That was before the aliens landed, back before the Internet went commercial. ;-)

SwissCelt wrote:
>I guess what this frustrated old college broadcast & comp sci major is saying is that the admins of this site have a golden opportunity here. Of course, it would help if y’all checked your e-mail settings: My e-mail to you folks at webmaster@godstilllovesus.org late last year offering my services as a “New Media” consultant (yeah, I do this for a living… does it show? ;-) ) bounced. But don’t take my word for it. Just look at your competitors (like Beliefnet.com) who are failing miserably at this here gig. The medium isn’t the problem… it’s how companies are using it.

Jeff—an overzealous sysadmin turned up the firewall settings a little too high and our emails were being blocked. My apologies.