Drug use replied by LdsGal202 @ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:08:12 -0000

LdsGal202 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:08:12 -0000

yeah salvia is very easy to get, I hear they sell the a lot in sex shops.lol. Hey I guess everyone has there diffrent ways to get pleasure. Anywhoo yeah Peyote is how it’s spelled. Koo, I thought LSD was the concentrated form of what gives Peyote it’s hallucinating effect? idk i was watching something about it on National geographics, The History of LSD…

Drug use replied by kookookachoo @ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:06:58 -0000

kookookachoo — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:06:58 -0000

The drug in peyote is called mescaline. The effects are similar to LSD, but it is not the same drug. LSD is dosed in micrograms, 500 to 750 being an average dose. This is a very small amount, barely measurable without a laboratory. You would need to take about 1 gram or more of mescaline to get the same effect. (1600 times more mescaline than LSD, by weight) I’ve done the mescaline, but never eaten a peyote button. I understand that it’s very similar to psilocybin mushrooms and like the shrooms, a real stomach upset… Not as much stomach problem with LSD due to the tiny tiny dose. Mescaline and peyote were never very common and still are not. I have not even seen mescaline in over 20 years.

Thanks for resurrecting this topic, Gal. I will post some more information shortly.

Love, Kookoo

Drug use replied by Satolkin @ Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:54:22 -0000

Satolkin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 01:54:22 -0000

Salvia is a form of sage, I believe, and fairly easy to get. I have heard the same thing- it’s an intense, short, paralyzing high, and you shouldn’t do it alone.

Personally, no thanks.

Drug use replied by LdsGal202 @ Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:37:00 -0000

LdsGal202 — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:37:00 -0000

theres tons of videos on youtube about peoples trips on salvia. Like any hallucinate drug you can either have a good trip or a bad trip, all depends on how fortunate you are, lol! :)))

Drug use replied by absoluteliquid @ Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:53:54 -0000

absoluteliquid — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:53:54 -0000

HHmmmm… Peyote… I believe… I would try it if the opportunity presented itself… I haven’t heard to many positive reports on Salvia but I have no personal knowledge of it…

Drug use replied by LdsGal202 @ Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:51:12 -0000

LdsGal202 — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:51:12 -0000

Many indian tribes use Pahoti…not sure how you spell is. But basically its LSD in it’s pure form.I think it can bring some sort of enlightenment. Never done it though. Theres this drug out there thats starting to get a bit popular caled Salvia. It’s a phycadelic drug with a very short-term high. Anyone else heard about it?

Drug use replied by stinkowicz @ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:48:54 -0000

stinkowicz — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:48:54 -0000

yea that shit was fun for a while, but then I just started to feel DUMB.
I didn’t like it unless I smoked massive amounts of MJizzle on it.

I was a speed demon, that was my first actual addiction to a drug. Drove me to get sober cause it scared the living shit out of me to be dependent on something. It was so easy to sneak pills from my ex-g/f, but eventually when I faced the fact of her 3 empty pill bottles (which I ignored till there were about 3 pills left in each), I realized this shit was wayyyyy over my head.

Lack of motivation makes it really bad to smoke,
and even worse to take a drug which seemingly cures it ;p

Drug use replied by emptycalm @ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:30:13 -0000

emptycalm — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:30:13 -0000

haha fuck DXM. Apparently it only does anything positive for like 6 percent of the population. It just gave me the spins and really crazy closed eye visuals.

Drug use replied by stinkowicz @ Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:27:15 -0000

stinkowicz — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:27:15 -0000

thanks for the welcome

I think I have a running tally of 27 total, I check the list off I found on erowid one day ;)

anyone else beat me?
or any really weird experiences out there?

DXM + LSD + marijuana = fucking mindfuck

Drug use replied by kookookachoo @ Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:32:29 -0000

kookookachoo — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:32:29 -0000

stinkowicz, welcome to the site! You’re right, but Syd Barret, no one could end up that badly (it’s a joke, to give you an extra fun welcome, especially since you’ve reformed! oh, another joke!) Thanks for coming here, if you haven’t already, we have an Introduce Yourself thread.

Drug use replied by stinkowicz @ Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:27:08 -0000

stinkowicz — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:27:08 -0000

Drugs taught me a lot, but they took control of my life.

Would I take my experiences back? Never. I had enormous amounts of fun.
But the lessons I learned while tripping need to be brought into practice in my daily sober life.
Otherwise I’m a dependent crazy and will probably end up just like Syd Barret.

Drug use replied by emptycalm @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:57:52 -0000

emptycalm — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:57:52 -0000

Haha well as much as I love lucy, if it were only to have been used for therapy, it would have been better for everyone IMO. But then again, the first people to abuse the drug were the US military who used it on enemy soldiers they captured so maybe thats where the ultimate blame should go.

Drug use replied by kookookachoo @ Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:57:54 -0000

kookookachoo — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 05:57:54 -0000

I could have been a little too harsh in the above post, but i’m not gonna edit it out. thanks for listening to an old tired bitch. regards, Ken

Drug use replied by kookookachoo @ Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:48:03 -0000

kookookachoo — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:48:03 -0000

emptycalm, you’re young, joew, relatively young. “Stupid fucking hippies” I am a stupid fucking hippie, thanks for sharing your opinions! Look up MY age yourself! Now, joew is against drug use, so i will direct my remarks to you, empty, (besides, he wasn’t mean) You do use drugs, so here goes: If not for us stupid fucking hippies carting these illegal drugs around the countryside at great personal risk, you would have had one hell of a supply problem on your acid. they may be illegal, but they are AVAILABLE! Did you get the hits from your Great Aunt Fanny for your birthday? Did you manufacture them yourself (wanna learn how?)? It’s like blaming black musicians from the 30’s for the ban on pot. It is when the white kids (in the 30’s) and the white suburban teens (soon to be something called “yuppies”) opened the medicine cabinet that the government banned it. please review my posts here. I know everything there is to know about drugs, legal and illegal. EVERYTHING. So my opinion is valid here. Please don’t mock me. My degree is in engineering, Chemical engineering to be exact. and I’ve kept up in my field. You aren’t making fun here, like i usually do, think before you hit the send key, OK? Otherwise, you both have had great input here and all over the site, just a mistake that momentarily pissed me off and I’m already over it. See you around…

Drug use replied by emptycalm @ Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:31 -0000

emptycalm — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:31 -0000

I know what you mean joew about moderation. I think if it were taught at a young age it could be ingrained in our society but yeah, a lot of people really can’t seem to grasp the concept. Even I do it sometimes. No one is perfect haha. I’m glad we could both debate this like rational adults. I know zoloft too. My mom took it and it caused her to have a lot of suicidal thoughts but it helps some people. We need more research on these things and less money spent on wars! haha

Drug use replied by kookookachoo @ Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:36:26 -0000

kookookachoo — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:36:26 -0000

joew, right on, both of the above posts!
empty, settle, please. We all get longwinded, joew has posted many one sentence posts, indeed, sometimes single words, if I remember right, now where did i leave that memory of mine? Joew, thanks for the comments on cigs and alcohol i asked for, I may not ever have to issue commands to you, very sweet of you.

Drug use replied by joew @ Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:28:21 -0000

joew — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:28:21 -0000

I have no qualms about scientific research. Hippies abused about everything. Seeing the dark side of drugs and the abuse therein sure makes one lean way far to the other side. I have often pondered the thought of legalization mainly because I hate being told what I can and can’t do by Big Bro. BTW I love to debate, you have made some good points and I can see some of your points having weight. I don’t think though that many people are capable of balance and moderation. I know I am not always capable with moderation when it comes to other aspects of my life. My wife takes zoloft since our son died two years ago, it has been a literal lifesaver for her. But there are a lot of reported suicides because of this drug too. I think there is so much uncertainty when it comes to drugs and individual human make up.

Drug use replied by emptycalm @ Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:20:01 -0000

emptycalm — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 01:20:01 -0000

Yeah. Abused. I keep saying education and moderation and you keep on spewing irrelevant points. LSD if used in small doses was great for therapy but it was banned before it could be used anymore because those stupid fucking hippies abused it. You seem to think that these substances are useless but they are far from it. Yeah, E will wreck yr shit but if it was studied more they could find a way to make it less destructive. When these drugs are illegal, they are also banned for scientific research which is completely ridiculous.

Drug use replied by joew @ Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:13:48 -0000

joew — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:13:48 -0000

Empty….

Yup…Some. Some people who do crack function, some kill for it. Many people who smoke pot are fine upstanding folk, some are not. Many who do LSD don’t hurt others or themselves, some do. People doing stupid and reckless things on drugs is purely an urban legend. Right. Alcohol kills a lot of people sadly too but I don’t make the laws. Cigarettes kill, and yet I do not think one can smoke responsibly either.

LSD and E are both very different drugs but have one thing in common. They are both widely studied. E, a decade ago was legal and used in marriage counseling of all things. But once it was discovered that it mutilated your brain cells and was widely becoming abused, it was rightfully outlawed.
I am not bitter, merely laughing at your naivety. “Because it did not work out for me” Maturity comes over time, especially with men not just because your old enough to buy a beer.

Drug use replied by emptycalm @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:11:47 -0000

emptycalm — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:11:47 -0000

You proved my point . You used the word some over and over and over again. SOME USERS! How are you going to say your opinions are your own then tell me my mind was never expanded while on the drug? You are a walking contradiction. Your “facts” about people jumping out the window on lsd are the oldest urban legend about the drug that has ever existed. Yes, you can go crazy. But you can go crazy from alcohol too. Hence why i kept talking about research and education instead of banning it. Just because your response was long doesn’t mean it holds and real value. LSD worked for me. Because of the things i learned about myself and how I see reality, I got over a lot of phobias and social stigmas and various other personal problems. I read a lot more, I feel more motivated. It helped me a great deal. So you say it doesn’t work? Hah maybe you are weak minded. Sorry they didn’t work out for you. Don’t be bitter about it because you didn’t use it right.

Drug use replied by joew @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:57:54 -0000

joew — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:57:54 -0000

Empty Calm Said…You are comparing LSD to meth? How about you stop watching fox news and go research the subject a bit.

That sure makes you sound intelligent, stating you know so much about me when you haven’t the slightest idea. As I posted earlier, I used many drugs as a teenager and nothing good came from LSD. I speak from experience, my opinions are mine and mine only. Not from the talking heads that you assume I get my information from. I have had many friends injured or killed as a result of drugs. I have seen many parents agonize over their children’s drug use and death. LSD does nothing to expand your mind. It is a hallucinogenic drug and I am afraid that you have fallen victim to the drugs illusion.

Quoted sources about LSD.

Some LSD users experience devastating psychological effects that persist after the trip has ended, producing a long-lasting psychotic-like state. LSD-induced persistent psychosis may include dramatic mood swings from mania to profound depression, vivid visual disturbances, and hallucinations. These effects may last for years and can affect people who have no history or other symptoms of psychological disorder.

Some users, warned that LSD might cause them to jump out of the window, did in fact jump out of the window. Many who were warned that LSD would drive them crazy did in fact suffer severe panic reactions, fearing that LSD had driven them crazy. Thus the warnings proved self-fulfilling prophecies, and enhanced the hazards of the drug.

Many analyses of black-market LSD have shown the presence of substances that are not in fact LSD but apparently some unknown congener.

In addition to contaminants accidentally introduced into black-market LSD through errors of synthesis, some black-market suppliers deliberately adulterated their LSD with a variety of substances, including amphetamines ’ and even strychnine.

This is some of the scary stuff you can dig up on your own.

I believe someone here quoted me as being weak minded, I would argue that those who need help expanding their minds are in fact the weak minded individuals. As far as drug trafficking is concerned, legalization may cut down the crime because now there is not a crime to prosecute. What you must understand is that drug use also goes along with risky behavior. People do stupid things when “expanding their minds”. I understand that we don’t see LSD whores like you would see crack addicted prostitutes. The dynamics are different and social classes often dictate whether you will snort coke or smoke crack.

So then you must be better than everyone because you would not do those drugs, rather you would do shrooms and LSD because you are educated? You argument does not hold water.

Drug use replied by ratboy @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:35:26 -0000

ratboy — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:35:26 -0000

kookoo will be annoyed that we started without him…this means one thing…handbags-at-dawn…

Drug use replied by absoluteliquid @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:32:19 -0000

absoluteliquid — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:32:19 -0000

Cheers!

Drug use replied by ratboy @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:30:26 -0000

ratboy — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:30:26 -0000

I’ll drink to that…

Drug use replied by absoluteliquid @ Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:29:41 -0000

absoluteliquid — Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:29:41 -0000

You have to drink a $%!*load of wine to get hammered…

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