Yesterday I was watching a documentary on the FLDS “church” It was very intresting! You’ve all probably heard the stories, girls marrying 30 year old men as soon as they hit puberty. Wearing bonnets and aprons and living an isolated abusive life style. One of there mottos being “Keep sweet” or in other words, follow us or get kicked out to the curb. But I have found that there is another side of the sory. Like muslims, polygomist have 2 sides to the story. There are extremists who follow Warren Jeff and aren’t allowed to watch TV or even read novels and start sewing there wedding dresses at 14. But theres also more society like polygomist who where refular clothes and go out to the movies with their friends and are normal teenagers. Another topic I want to bring up is why isn’t the government doing anything do control these extremist who are forcing young girls to marry and have children at 16 and boys who are being excommunicated from the community in order for the men to have more wives?! What are you guys’ thought on the topic?

hmmm…assuming “Religion” and “mind control” are somehow mutually exclusive…

Oh, C’MON, now; kidding.

Logically, polygomy probably makes some sense if you’re living in a heavily agrarian community where you need a lot of farmhands, cooks, clothes- menders, etc.. Many farm families today, though consisting of two parents, tend to have a bunch of kids just for that purpose.
And while polygomy seems wrong today, it wasn’t that long ago that it was common practice, and for those evangelical types who like to flog the Bible, it shouldn’t be that repulsive.

On the other hand, if it BECOMES mind control, then you’ve got a different issue.

And, I’m always up in the air about government control- generally, I’d prefer that they leave people the hell alone, and who is to determine if a polygomous situation is actually a “cultish” situation? I dunno.

Yeah I agree, there are polygomist families out there who are a noral functioning family, but this documentary was specifically about the FLDS church. You should of seen the women, they dress like there in the 1800’s and they all talk with these soft voices like there possessed, they’ve obviously brain washed. There was 3 wives and they all talk the same, and the only thing they would talk about was their children. These girls start sewing there wedding dressed when there 12 and once they hit puberty they just wait around to be chosen so they can marry someone. FREAAKKYYY! lol.

p.s.I think the govt. is out to get us as well.

EEEeewwww…That IS freaky… o.O

LdsGal202 wrote:
>Yesterday I was watching a documentary on the FLDS “church” It was very intresting! You’ve all probably heard the stories, girls marrying 30 year old men as soon as they hit puberty. Wearing bonnets and aprons and living an isolated abusive life style. One of there mottos being “Keep sweet” or in other words, follow us or get kicked out to the curb. But I have found that there is another side of the sory. Like muslims, polygomist have 2 sides to the story. There are extremists who follow Warren Jeff and aren’t allowed to watch TV or even read novels and start sewing there wedding dresses at 14. But theres also more society like polygomist who where refular clothes and go out to the movies with their friends and are normal teenagers. Another topic I want to bring up is why isn’t the government doing anything do control these extremist who are forcing young girls to marry and have children at 16 and boys who are being excommunicated from the community in order for the men to have more wives?! What are you guys’ thought on the topic?

Here I am Gal, finally able to comment coherently. I agree with Satol on polygamy. I don’t have a problem with it, and the government shouldn’t, either. People should be able to do as they like on this issue. Everyone is different, may need or want different things. If an abusive situation should occur, there are laws to protect the victim, if she/he has access/contact with law enforcement.

I haven’t seen such a documentary, if you can point me toward it, that would be cool. There are extremists like Jeff in every religion, it seems (Is it Jeff or Jeffs?). I’m thinking that there are different types of polygamous situations, from “Why don’t the three of us get married all together? How fun! How frolicsome!” to “Welcome to Hell, wife # 17”, and a whole lot inbetween. As you said in your post.

I don’t think the government necessarily knows what’s going on with some of this stuff. A lot of these people withdraw from society. The situation in Texas only broke because of it’s sheer size. With that many people, if there’s abuse or PERCEIVED abuse, someone will complain, and that’s what happened. Now then, the marriages. These folks don’t generally go to the state to go thru the legal rigaramole. Their marriages aren’t legal with any government entity, so as far as the government is concerned, these people aren’t actually married, just a big religious commune all living and working together as a “family”. This is the problem that Texas ran into, as long as they can’t prove abuse, and so far they cannot, these people were really doing nothing wrong (as against the law). So other, higher courts in Texas said, just wait a minute here, they did nothing wrong, they are choosing to do this, none of their testimony or depositions could be coerced by “an abuser”, because they are public and freely done by all involved, including the children. Those courts are saying, leave them alone, they have the right to live as they choose, never you mind what they are doing unless they are breaking the law, WHICH THEY AREN’T. I happen to agree with this. People should be able to live as they choose. These people weren’t prisoners, they came and went to the various cities around them, they had other friends that weren’t involved in the “commune”, they shopped (probably by the truckload, Sam’s Club, here we come!). They went in and out of the commune on a regular basis, and with the children, too. Sure, people may get disgruntled, look at how many divorces there are in regular marriages OR among non-married couples. That would be a given. This is a great victory for people who say that there is a right to be left alone. It’s now enshrined in Texas law.

So far as the religious aspect of the above paragraph, I would assume that the mainline LDS (or Christian) churches would not recognize most of these marriages, either. A person or persons that lead such a “community” is also doing the marrying, so have established themselves as the religious authority in that community and that then would be perceived as a marriage only in that community. The authenticity of the “minister” is not recognized by a mainline church. I’m not very good at this religious stuff, but i could be right??? You think? Well, let me know what you think, sweetie.

Oh, forcing young girls to marry and stuff. Yeah, that is not good, if that’s what’s actually happening. If people are being forced to do things against their wills, something should be done.

On a personal note, I have had many polygamous relationships, I’m in one right now. Of course, it doesn’t involve actual marriage. I hope you don’t imagine it any worse than it really is. I love both these guys with all my heart and they pour that love right back over me every day. I am a very lucky man to be with them.

Will respond to your most recent comments in a different post.
Love, Kookoo

Hmm for some reason I tink everyone is getting the wrong idea from my post, im specifically referring to the FLDS church. Not just any polymoist in general. I mean idc about polygomist, they choose that lifestyle & are perfectly normal people. But the FLDS are something else, I was trying to find the video on youtube, i’ll post up anything good i find. But the FLDS do not go out in public,there not allowed to go to the movies or wach tv or the radio or anything. There literally stuck in there towns, the largest being in Colorado city, AZ. I would have to find the video for you, its just insane.

p.s. i dont get what you were asking me about the marriage and the ministers not being from mainline churches???