What is REALLY Going On replied by absoluteliquid @ Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:04:48 -0000

absoluteliquid — Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:04:48 -0000

Well I am pleased to see that we got a lively debate sparked up here… I concede that the site puts a pro Israeli spin on the information contained but am in Arandur’s camp in that the info in NOT bullshit. I also have seen this backed up by numerous government reports and other verifiable sources. I understand what propaganda is and think my main point was that our “news” in this country is just so much propaganda….

What is REALLY Going On replied by Arandur @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:07:21 -0000

Arandur — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:07:21 -0000

Hey, I said their spin is pretty strong and is highly debatable. But most of their facts they’ve cited and I’ve seen before – in history books, CIA factbooks, Foreign Policy magazine, and the Journal of Foreign Affairs. Their facts are right, and don’t support most of their detractors. They do support the reality that they’ve been trying to compromise and come to peaceful agreements for many, many years only to be slapped in the face repeatedly.

What is REALLY Going On replied by kookookachoo @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:20:19 -0000

kookookachoo — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:20:19 -0000

OK, I’m weighing in… ec is right, the website is pretty much bullshit. Clearly designed to get the U.S. to go after Iran. If we do, whoever is President at the time should be executed immediately. Unfortunately, that remedy is not constitutional.

There is a lot of bullshit on the website… Why would you trust the rest of the information therein when so much of it is bullshit? OK, you SEE the bullshit, THEN you say that this part over here is valid? If it’s partly bull, it’s all bull, fellas. Don’t you know how propaganda works? You should have learned this starting in about the 10th grade thru 12th. That is, before you were even an adult. Now, you’re adults, living breathing citizens of the world and you can’t figure out when people are trying to hoodwink you? It’s on a website, I read it there, it’s gotta be REAL? No one would ever bullshit anyone on the world wide web?? I absolutely shudder when I think about how bad off you people are going to be when I’m dead and gone. Thank your God that it will be soon. Good luck with this…

And i ain’t no jew hating conspiracy theorist. These idiots who just happen to be jews got themselves into this, let them fuck with the consequences on their own. Once they lob a few well aimed nukes at the region, all will probably go well for them and the fallout won’t irradiate me from that far away, or my gravesite. Criminy!

What is REALLY Going On replied by kookookachoo @ Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:34:34 -0000

kookookachoo — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:34:34 -0000

emptycalm wrote:>I seriously hope you are joking. Israel has the largest army budget in that whole region. They have the most nukes in the region. They are backed by the US 100%.And it’s not even their land! Also, is that implying israelies are tolerant? They would love to be able to make the entire arab world a crater because they see them as evil muslims if it was more socially acceptable. All you have to do is look at lebanon. I really really really hope you are joking because if you believe the nonsense on that site you are very sadly uninformed.

Hey ec, I’m gonna follow the link, so bear with me… Can you give us some insight into your remarks? Thanks, dear!

Love, Kookoolina

What is REALLY Going On replied by kookookachoo @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:04 -0000

kookookachoo — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:18:04 -0000

I’m going to weigh in on this subject later, even though I don’t care…lol

What is REALLY Going On replied by kookookachoo @ Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:16:52 -0000

kookookachoo — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:16:52 -0000

Arandur wrote:>Yes, that’s a propaganda site, but wow, you just swung back even farther in the opposite direction, well past the point of reasonable doubt or disagreement with Israel into the la-la land of Jew-hating conspiracy theorists with no grasp of history or reality.

Aran, Please re-examine your reply. Where is your question in this? Periods are the only punctuation in it. You called ec a jew-hating conspiracy theorist with no grasp of history or reality, did you not? At least, looks that way to me… You could have handled this in a better manner…
Love, Ken

P.S. For the record, ec was a bit shrill.

What is REALLY Going On replied by Arandur @ Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:56:40 -0000

Arandur — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:56:40 -0000

I did question them. I pointed out how incredibly one-sided they were, considering that the anti-Jew terrorism and general sentiment in the Middle East is so strong, vocal, plainly spoken, and uncompromising. Sure, we could debate those things you mention as debatable. But what isn’t debatable is that the Arabs of the region are at least as hateful. Also, yes, most of the facts listed on that site are correct. You could debate the spin, but considering the pre-1948 Jewish settlements and many significant offers to compromise, it seems to me hard to argue that the typical Arab anti-Israeli position is justified, and hard to argue that the Israelis haven’t been attempting to come to a reasonable agreement.

What is REALLY Going On replied by kookookachoo @ Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:10:47 -0000

kookookachoo — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:10:47 -0000

Another non-caring issue for me, sorry. Let them kill each other off the best way they know how, they’re far enough away that it will never affect me. Now, as far as the fact that my tax money supports the conflict, Oops, darn it, STILL don’t care!

However, I do think that ec has a right to his opinion as all of you do, too???? His facts seem correct, the land thing is debatable, the Israelis’ intent is debatable, the Lebanon thing is debatable. If you are questioning his opinions, QUESTION them, do not call them what they MAY NOT BE. Thank you. Don’t get me wrong, I have done this myself many times, that doesn’t make it right.

What is REALLY Going On replied by Satolkin @ Sat, 24 May 2008 03:44:15 -0000

Satolkin — Sat, 24 May 2008 03:44:15 -0000

Though clearly a pro- Israel site, the numbers are actually pretty damned accurate. As to Palestine not being their land…well…yes, it is. Us and the British gave it to them.

And yes, I’m an Israel supporter, for several reasons, and believe we should continue backing them.

What is REALLY Going On replied by absoluteliquid @ Fri, 23 May 2008 22:04:18 -0000

absoluteliquid — Fri, 23 May 2008 22:04:18 -0000

fixed

What is REALLY Going On replied by Arandur @ Thu, 22 May 2008 05:11:14 -0000

Arandur — Thu, 22 May 2008 05:11:14 -0000

Yes, that’s a propaganda site, but wow, you just swung back even farther in the opposite direction, well past the point of reasonable doubt or disagreement with Israel into the la-la land of Jew-hating conspiracy theorists with no grasp of history or reality.

What is REALLY Going On replied by emptycalm @ Wed, 21 May 2008 21:42:42 -0000

emptycalm — Wed, 21 May 2008 21:42:42 -0000

I seriously hope you are joking. Israel has the largest army budget in that whole region. They have the most nukes in the region. They are backed by the US 100%.And it’s not even their land! Also, is that implying israelies are tolerant? They would love to be able to make the entire arab world a crater because they see them as evil muslims if it was more socially acceptable. All you have to do is look at lebanon. I really really really hope you are joking because if you believe the nonsense on that site you are very sadly uninformed.

What is REALLY Going On replied by absoluteliquid @ Thu, 01 May 2008 21:24:42 -0000

absoluteliquid — Thu, 01 May 2008 21:24:42 -0000

I found this website today and it blew me away with it’s unfiltered information about what’s really going on in the Middle East… The content may not be suitable for work or school although it SHOULD be on our evening news… instead we get meaningless GARBAGE spoon fed to us by our controlled media… I HIGHLY recommend that you all do some research and find out what id REALLY going on in our world… don’t go to the following link: http://www.middle-east-info.org

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