Three wars replied by kookookachoo @ Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:11:54 -0000

kookookachoo — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:11:54 -0000

I’m BUMPing this topic, too. This is an example of our best satire toward a flamer that actually stuck around for awhile. This was much fun, remember these things when it happens again, because it will… Whoopee!

Three wars replied by Satolkin @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:36:43 -0000

Satolkin — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:36:43 -0000

“here a visual folks http://www.cecaust.com.au/info/wamd/A4p16.png“

Oh, urza. Not to try to thrust you into reality, but that picture? It’s of a statue.

No, really, check it again. It’s not a picture of Pike in a robe and hood, it’s a statue of Pike that a bunch of demonstrators have put in a hood and robe.

You understand the difference, right?

Real person= real person.
Statue= representation of a real person.

OK, probably not getting it. Let’s say there’s a picture of you. Then, say there’s a picture of a statue of you, in a clown costume.

Oh. Bad example.

BTW- Nathan Bedford Forrest was one of the early leaders of the KKK. A General in the Confederate Army, as was Pike. He and Pike didn’t get along- Uncle Albert considered him a punk, which he was. Uncle Albert? Not KKK. Sorry.

BTW, not sure if I asked you this- have you actually read Morals and Dogma?

Three wars replied by ratboy @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:55:04 -0000

ratboy — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:55:04 -0000

I hope he has the courage to seek therapy…

Three wars replied by absoluteliquid @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:53:31 -0000

absoluteliquid — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:53:31 -0000

I haven’t read more than a sentence per post from urza and am grateful for not having wasted the time…triple posting, spamming, and complete ignorance aside, I have gathered that there has been nary an original thought from this individual…At no point in your rambling nonsensical babble was there anything that resembled intelligent input… everyone here is now dumber from your presence, I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul…

Three wars replied by Satolkin @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:44:27 -0000

Satolkin — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:44:27 -0000

Hey, screw the bracelet, urza- let’s talk about his penis ring.

Pike doesn’t make any mention of his bracelet in his writings. Perhaps that erroneous thing you copied and pasted, twice, has something to say about that.

Not KKK either, BTW. You’re gobbling up bullshit. Worse, you’re repeating it. That’s a “bearing false witness” thing, isn’t it?

So, ever actually read Morals and Dogma?

Three wars replied by Arandur @ Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:10:05 -0000

Arandur — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:10:05 -0000

Nothing to be done, Koo:
“i know all fool”

We’re apparently dealing with the Almighty here. It looks like this forum got his attention, and he’s going to set us straight. Apparently he doesn’t still love us. Who knew? Guess we pissed him off with all our satanism.

Three wars replied by SwissCelt @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:01:50 -0000

SwissCelt — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:01:50 -0000

I really need to fix that link on my site. The “Gnostic Church of Christ” is actually another of my websites, which I started in Marietta, GA back in 2002. I’ve done absolutely nothing with it lately, though (and for the record, I started the site a few months before Brown published “The DaVinci Code”, thankyouverymuch). I’ve even started using some of the server space for test pages on some of my other projects, and have been talking to someone else in the Atlanta area in taking over that whole project since it never really caught on for me (and I’m no longer in Atlanta, anyway). So if it’s a conspiracy I’m in on, it’s a conspiracy of failure. ;-)

Uzra, that graphic that you linked us to is of a civil rights demonstration of some sort. Putting a hood and robe on a statue of Albert Pike doesn’t prove that he was a member of the KKK… much less the many other accusations you made against him. As a son of the South, he didn’t have the most progressive attitudes toward African Americans, but then neither do his fellow Southerners Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell.

Three wars replied by kookookachoo @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:27 -0000

kookookachoo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:27 -0000

Satol, SC, Aran, we are going to have to go get the bracelet. He leaves us no choice. When Lucifer interrogates him, I think his first question will be “Who’s the fool, now, boy?”

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:35:08 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:35:08 -0000

Albert Pike was born on December 29, 1809, in Boston, and was the oldest of six children born to Benjamin and Sarah Andrews Pike. He studied at Harvard, and later served as a Brigadier-General in the Confederate Army. After the Civil War, Pike was found guilty of treason and jailed, only to be pardoned by fellow Freemason President Andrew Johnson on April 22, 1866, who met with him the next day at the White House. On June 20, 1867, Scottish Rite officials conferred upon Johnson the 4th to 32nd Freemasonry degrees, and he later went to Boston to dedicate a Masonic Temple.

Pike was said to be a genius, able to read and write in 16 different languages, although I cannot find a record anywhere of what those languages were. In addition, he is widely accused of plagiarism, so take with a pinch of salt. At various stages of his life we was a poet, philosopher, frontiersman, soldier, humanitarian and philanthropist. A 33rd degree Mason, he was one of the founding fathers, and head of the Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, being the Grand Commander of North American Freemasonry from 1859 and retained that position until his death in 1891. In 1869, he was a top leader in the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

Pike was said to be a Satanist, who indulged in the occult, and he apparently possessed a bracelet which he used to summon Lucifer, with whom he had constant communication. He was the Grand Master of a Luciferian group known as the Order of the Palladium (or Sovereign Council of Wisdom), which had been founded in Paris in 1737. Palladism had been brought to Greece from Egypt by Pythagoras in the fifth century, and it was this cult of Satan that was introduced to the inner circle of the Masonic lodges. It was aligned with the Palladium of the Templars. In 1801, Issac Long, a Jew, brought a statue of Baphomet (Satan) to Charleston, South Carolina, where he helped to establish the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite. Long apparently chose Charleston because it was geographically located on the 33rd parallel of latitude (incidentally, so is Baghdad), and this council is considered to be the Mother Supreme Council of all Masonic Lodges of the World.

Pike was Long’s successor, and he changed the name of the Order to the New and Reformed Palladian Rite (or Reformed Palladium). The Order contained two degrees:

Adelph (or Brother), and

Companion of Ulysses (or Companion of Penelope).

Pike’s right-hand man was Phileas Walder, from Switzerland, who was a former Lutheran minister, a Masonic leader, occultist, and spiritualist. Pike also worked closely with Giusseppe Mazzini of Italy (1805-1872) who was a 33rd degree Mason, who became head of the Illuminati in 1834, and who founded the Mafia in 1860. Together with Mazzini, Lord Henry Palmerston of England (1784-1865, 33rd degree Mason), and Otto von Bismarck from Germany (1815-1898, 33rd degree Mason), Albert Pike intended to use the Palladian Rite to create a Satanic umbrella group that would tie all Masonic groups together.

Albert Pike died on April 2, 1891, and was buried in Oak Hill Cemetery, although the corpse of Pike currently lies in the headquarters of the Council of the 33rd degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry in Washington, D.C. (see The Deadly Deception, by Jim Shaw – former 33rd degree Mason and Past Master of all Scottish Rite bodies.)

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:19:36 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:19:36 -0000

here a visual folks http://www.cecaust.com.au/info/wamd/A4p16.png

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:17:18 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:17:18 -0000

i know all fool

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:16:20 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:16:20 -0000

Pike was Long’s successor, and he changed the name of the Order to the New and Reformed Palladian Rite (or Reformed Palladium). The Order contained two degrees:

Adelph (or Brother), and

Companion of Ulysses (or Companion of Penelope).

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:24 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:24 -0000

ok lets tell us pike and his braclet and what he says it was for, lets see how much you know?

Three wars replied by Satolkin @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:08:16 -0000

Satolkin — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:08:16 -0000

Yeah, so, urza- ever read Morals and Dogma? SwissCelt and I have. In fact, I’ve read it several times, and am something of a Pike student.
I just ask because on that other thread you spammed this morning, you quoted something, claiming it to be from M&D, and it’s not.

So, hey- if you need any advice before you post something relating to a subject of which you have no clue, just let us know.

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:57:45 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:57:45 -0000

SwissCelt promotes Gnostic Church of Christ on his website this prick is part of the problem dam retared DanBrown flunky , He has already proved his farther was high level mason proving his blood lines curse. He is to dumb to know it tho…

Three wars replied by urza @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:11:00 -0000

urza — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:11:00 -0000

Freemasons are a true enemy of the church, people you have a temple in every town that worship satan. Repent ye; for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!

Three wars replied by kookookachoo @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:14:39 -0000

kookookachoo — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:14:39 -0000

Sain, good man, thank you!

Three wars replied by Sain57 @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:03:06 -0000

Sain57 — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:03:06 -0000

Kookoo: Yes, yes I was. But I wanted to see and wait if it would really happen; people believing so or not.

Three wars replied by SwissCelt @ Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:56:44 -0000

SwissCelt — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:56:44 -0000

I was actually hinting at that, with a wink and nod. I’ve read it, in fact; what I was saying here boils down to, “If you want, I can go check, but I really doubt that’s in there.” I’ve found that putting it tactfully that way tends to put an end to the argument.

Though I admit it is rather fun to watch them sputter and stammer when it is revealed that they haven’t actually read M&D.

Three wars replied by Satolkin @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:12:31 -0000

Satolkin — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:12:31 -0000

“Pretty sure, though, that Mazzini is not mentioned in Morals and Dogma.”

Absolutely correct. Hey, for fun, whenever someone on any religious forum, or to support a conspiracy belief,starts referencing M&D, just ask if they’ve ever read it.

Three wars replied by kookookachoo @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:26:37 -0000

kookookachoo — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:26:37 -0000

Well, I knew you guys would help, I was just babbling again, I really know nothing about this topic, wanted to give urza some shit, but he(she) can take it! I know it!
Sain, you know i was writing a funny, joking, but i think you were, too, right?

Three wars replied by SwissCelt @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:19:13 -0000

SwissCelt — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 03:19:13 -0000

Heh, you and I both missed this thread, Satol. Guess Urza lucked out. ;-)

Urza, there’s a copy of Morals and Dogma at my Dad’s house. Pretty sure, though, that Mazzini is not mentioned in Morals and Dogma. So you’re going to have to be a bit more specific: What exactly do you cite from Morals and Dogma? That it exists, and that Albert Pike wrote it? No argument there. The “hoax” comment, however, relates to (at least) two hoaxes in which it is claimed that Albert Pike revealed rather sinister aspects to the Masonic fraternity.

One is the Taxil hoax, in which an atheist named Marie Joseph Gabriel Antoine Jogand-Pagès [nom de plume Lèo Taxil] intended to mock both Freemasonry and the Catholic Church by converting to Christianity and telling lies about Freemasonry, exploiting the rift between the Masonic fraternity and the Catholic Church. It is important to note that Taxil previously slandered the Church with such works as Les Maîtresses du Pape [The Mistresses of the Pope], which claimed that the Pontiff had several BDSM mistresses. Taxil revealed his hoax before a crowd on 19 April 1897 (source: Wikipedia)

The other is the Mazzini letter. By your own admission, Urza, there’s no evidence that the letter ever existed! There’s also no evidence that Pike belonged to the Illuminati, or indeed that the Illuminati itself survived much past its ban by the Bavarian government in 1784. The reason it makes for a good story is that Giuseppe Mazzini, a Mason, reunited Italy at roughly the same time Albert Pike served as the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Southern [USA] Jurisdiction of Scottish Rite.

So, you were saying?

Three wars replied by ratboy @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:39:54 -0000

ratboy — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:39:54 -0000

sniff-sniff…what’s that de-lightful smell?...Famous Grouse?

Three wars replied by Satolkin @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:36:48 -0000

Satolkin — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:36:48 -0000

Wow. How did I miss this thread?

Urza, insightful as always.
Which is to say, not much. Believe I’ll have another scotch.
Guess that makes me a tipical (sic) forum douche. But I smell lovely.

Three wars replied by ratboy @ Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:22:31 -0000

ratboy — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:22:31 -0000

I’m so in awe of imperial persons…it’s all the purple robes and such…don’t start buying your WWIII bonds just yet…we’ll likely still be in Iraq…who ever wins the next election…

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